...Interesting, Studio 10 won't even *run* on my HP laptop running WinXP Home. So I switched to Ulead...But even that won't see my Sony Handycam...
Studio 8 came with my PC. It wasn’t great, and was decidedly unstable and buggy, but it was my first video software and I created some ok movies eventually. I decided to upgrade to Studio 9 plus. Why, when other products had a better reputation? As far as I could see, all my earlier work would be incompatible with another product, .stu is a proprietary format. Naturally I installed latest version 9.4.3. 9 Plus seemed good, Lots of nice features, crashed when editing occasionally but always recovered OK. Sop I learned all the tricks and got ambitious. After about 100 hours (really) creating a great movie of our Sri Lanka trip, I tried to render. It freezes after almost 29 minutes. (It’s a 55 minute film.). There is oodles of disk space. I try rearranging the clips, it still stops after the same time, so it’s not any particular scene. I try all sorts of stuff. Delete the aux files and recreate. Stop every other process and application from running while I render. ETC ETC. Nothing helps. I put in the details to on-line support. The automated response says I will get a reply in –3 working days,. Of course, that time has long been and gone., They just don’t care. Maybe I’ll take them to court. But I’ve promised to show this film to my bird club and I can’t cut it. I took a weeks’ holiday to do some of it, I can’t repeat that. The solutions offered, recapture using a different product, won’t help me. Good if you basically just copy to disk, I guess. The problem is losing an enormous amount of editing I’ve done, and no time to do it all over again. Does anyone believe Pinnacle will offer a fix for 9.4.3. or a free upgrade to 10 – they don’t even answer communications.
Just a thought, selimap, there's a tutorial at http://vfwtech.com/Liquid/Tutorials_pinnacle.htm that shows how to use Liquid Edition to import Studio 9 projects. What use is that? I hear you ask? I have found that Edition will render when Studio gives up, so you may be able to save your 100 hours (I believe you!) of work by buying the Edition (now Avid Edition 7) upgrade. More money out the door, but what price do you put on your 100 hours? (I'm not an Avid/Pinnacle employee - just as disgruntled as you with them, but I found a way out of the mess)
thnaks v much for the idea. If nothing else works - but I hate the thought of giving yet more money to Pinnacle
Selimap, My situation was just like yours. I managed to go back from 9.4.3 to re-install version 9.3 following the lead from others here, and it worked, hence all my efforts were saved afterall. Good luck
I uninstalled 9.4.3, defragged disk, reinstalled 9.3 + Bonus contnts from DVD/CD... now when I try to start Studio Plus it just encountrs and error and closes down.
Here is a workaround for the blocking rendering problems with Pinnacle 9.4.3. Do NOT start generating DVD (image or direct burn on dvd). Instead of that start with generating AVI files. Pinnacle prompts you, where to store thes AVI files. Even generating AVI may stall; but the advantage is that when generating stalls, Pinnacle has already rendered and saved a part of your film in AVI format! When rendering stalls, start a new project from this this point on and generate again a (second) AVI file. Go on with generating AVI files until you cover your whole film. When you have done this, start a new project using all the previously generated AVI files and generate an new AVI file of your complete film. Next step is adding a menu with chapters to the AVI file. After adding the menu, you can now generate a DVD image. My advise is to make an image in stead of directly writing to dvd. Last step is to burn your dvd. I did this with Nero to avoid any problems with Pinnacle. Remark: Be sure you have enough free storage space ! Generating AVI consumes much storage space (1 hour film = 10 Gigabyte) Probably you create several versions of your project. At least you generate all separte files that were required to cover the whole film and one AVI file of the complete film without menu and one with the menu. On top of that you also need 4,7 Gb for the DVD image. Of course you can throw away some initial AVI files after succesfully generating the complete film. But for security reasons I prefer not to do so before having the final result.
Thanks for detailed suggestion, I'm beginning to understand what you mean. I'll pursue this route and report back...
Thanks also for the help. But I'd much rather Pinnacle got themselves sorted out, and gave us a working piece of software.
me again... the created avi file had 36 mins, wmp gets to about 31 loses sound and then shows a 'can't play' error. Opening the file as a new project i.e. like a captured video, detects all the scenes and stops at a much earlier point than the avi itself. If I drag all the scenes to the project timeline, how will this be different from my original start point, except I will have lost the menus, multiple layers etc? Wouldn't it be the same as just chopping the original project into a number of small chunks?
call me crazy but i split my 70 minute project into three and burned to 3 different dvds. ( i was so sick of rendering hangups i had to see i had actually done somthing after days / weeks of fustration.) How do i get them back together on one disk? will Nero 6 ultra edition help me? do i run them back into studio 9.3? thanks for your input. ken
Success at last. Not exactly following any advice to the letter, but inspired by all I had learnt... I eliminated the clip which contained the point at which the avi gave an error. I then re-rendered as an avi file (as it's quite quick) and was pleased to find it was totally playable. I then rendered to disk for DVD and then burnt the DVD, all with Studio 9.4.3, and all worked OK. So - it seems one clip was 'corrupt' although originally I had rearranged clips and decided the problem lay after a certain time elapsed and not an individual clip - but that's where the avi was much more helpful as I could see where the error started. The questionable clip did not contain the scene that appeared on the Pinnacle viewer when it originally froze. The clip was a straight forward, though relatively long and trimmed, clip from video camera, no overlay tracks or other effects. The problem was not related to 9.3 or 9.4.3, both gave exactly the same results in these scenarios (I've now gone back to 9.4.3)
I should have added that the total length of DVD was still around 55 minutes, the clip was about 4 mins long, so it is not impossible to create reasonable length DVDs
All hail 'Websokind' (20th December 2005)who first mentioned 'Win DV' for capturing, and my son James for finding this thread. Having had the last month of failure after failure when rendering, I followed the advice in this forum and have just produced my first video allbeit is 0445am! I downloaded 'Win DV', used it to capture the film from my DV camera, slotted it back into the framework I had already designed in Studio 9 which had mp3 tracks, and Hollywood FX, and then rendered it using Studio and got all excited cause it worked!! Pinnacle should carry a health warning on the box. It didn't do any good for mine.
Post from Drabbig sort of falls into my own theory that the problem is more in captures from 9-Plus than in the actual render process. This was somewhat supported when I installed Studio 7 on another machine and tried to render a capture that had failed in Plus. It wouldn't render in 7 either. It stopped at same place. I checked file properties of the clip and properties of a successful clip and didn't find anything different. My problems also seem to come from the audio capture. In most of my render failures I can remove audio and it will then render. Capture problem is intermittent since I can recapture the same scene and it will usually render. Maybe Pinnacle needs to look real close at the capture process.
Hi adgfb. I know the thread is getting kind of long now, but I recommend you read through it. I can assure you that the capture problem is not your theory - we've all realised that Pinnacle fails to capture properly because of audio problems. We've been calling on pinnacle for some time now to get it fixed. Have a read through - you'll be surprised at how long Pinnacle has been ignoring this problem.
I really want to take the time to thank everyone for their helpful suggestions regarding Studio. I have been trying to work on a project for many months now with no real rush, but now I need the project completed with a few days. I found a method that works for me, albeit that I needed to spend more money . . . But here is what I do: render as a AVI in Studio, and make it into a DVD with WIn AVI video converter. And burn as normal. I would have been pulling my hair out if if hadn't have been for this site and everyone's suggestions, it would have made a extremely stressful time horrific. Now I have a wonderful DVD timeline with photo slides and home videos and interviews to show at my grandmother's funeral. Thanks
That's great to have a work-around. My own experience has been that I can't even render to AVI or jpeg2. I have found over past few days that some clips that won't render to AVI will though render to the high quality jpeg. I have started breaking my projects into logical segments of about 15-20 minutes and rendering each segment separately to avi or jpeg2 then putting the rendered parts together. This makes it easier to find and deal with the problem clip. Some clips have been so corrupted on capture that they wouldn't render into anything, high or low. Those I've had to recapture. I'm very curious as to what exactly is happening in the corrupted clip. My first clue after capture that a clip is corrupted is that the audio will drop out after a few seconds playing in preview. As I've said in prior posts if I cut the audio out it will then render. If Speilburg had to deal with this we'd still be waiting on SW-I! Cheers,
You're absolutely right. The problem is with the capture process in 9.4.3, and it is the audio which is at fault. As you say, you can check by looking in preview; the audio drops out. If you can, go back to 9.3 which is free of this bug - I went back to it some time ago (I have no intention of paying out for version 10) and - aoart from missing the features og 9.4.3 (such as importing a DVD) it works well. I'm still hoping Pinnacle will address the issue.
Sorry - to be clear - you must capture in version 9.3. If you've already captured in 9.4.3, you'll need to do it again. The captured files are faulty.
