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Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by GrandpaBW, Feb 2, 2006.

  1. Mik3h

    Mik3h Regular member

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    Well Done Bruce. Keep it up! :p

    -Mike
     
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    OMG.......Ireland, you are grossing me out!

    Statistics show nicotine is more addicting than heroin. This courageous lady toured schools in Canada. She was diagnosed with lung cancer, which eventually took her life. Instead of staying home with her family, she felt it was her calling to stop others from following her path. I believe she was even featured on Montel Williams.

    http://www.bookscollective.com/barbs_site/quit.html


    GOOD LUCK GrandpaBW, everytime you have a craving, think of your beautiful grandchildren, go outside, take a deep breathe of fresh air, take a long walk and enjoy nature. YOU WILL WIN!!!!!!!
     
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  3. permiggs

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    Ireland... Jesus, man! I think we got the point... C'mon, edit those out... I know you got somethin else on that subject but nicer...
     
  4. Mik3h

    Mik3h Regular member

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    Lol, it's putting people off smoking, aint that a good thing..?

    -Mike
     
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    Hi Mike, i hope it works for you... As for me... I'm a lost case... LOL


    Way to go GrampaBW!
     
  6. Mik3h

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    Lol, I'm not too sure, It's early days for me.. but I s'pose if I don't give up soon I probably never will! :(

    -Mike
     
  7. GrandpaBW

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    Thanks all, again.

    @arniebear: There is no doubt that I am, hopefully was, traveling down that bypass road. Today is by far the best day that I have had, since I started my quitting process. I feel pretty good about that, and believe me, the positive feed back does help this grandpa.
     
  8. SypherTek

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    still serving your turkey cold eh grandpa... lol

    keep it up
     
  9. weazel200

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    Well done Bruce, keep it up.
     
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    @ ireland
    Love the pics
     
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    @ireland

    If I had not quit those pics sure would make me, ugh!

    @GrandpaBW

    Keep going you are doing great.
     
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    Both of my now x wives were smokers and both quit while with me. Not that i made them quit, they just decided to do it for themselves. I watched both go thru the withdrawals, and it wasn't pretty. Of course i caught a lot of flack, but i put up with it because i knew that they were going thru some rough times. It is a nasty habit to get stuck with, and anyone quitting or trying to quit has my support. Not just you, but your whole family will benifit from a smoker quitting. We all know smoking is bad for you, but it really takes something like irelands pics to wake some ppl up to the damage cigarettes do to you. Leave those lung pics there ireland, if it groses out ppl, good, it should. GOOD LUCK to all you smoking quitters. You have the power to stop, if you just believe in yourself. Hang in there GrandpaBW you will make it, and NEVER even try a puff after quitting. It is very easy to get back in to smoking, but its very hard to quit. Wish i had some magic words everyone could use to quit, but the magic will have to come from within yourself.
     
  13. GrandpaBW

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    Haven't been here in the past day or so. An update for all who care. :) Day 23, and I have not had a craving for a smoke in 3 days. This is getting serious. I am one happy person. Not anywhere near defeating the damned habit, but getting closer to it every day, now.

    Life is good!
     
  14. garmoon

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    It will get better and cheaper
     
  15. dr_no

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    Damn, after finding this thread and reading all through it, I came to conclusion!

    Maybe I should change the picture in my signature !
     
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    Cigarette Maker Hid Toxicity of 'Low Tar' Brands
    HealthDay

    Yahoo! Health: Addiction News

    February 7, 2006 03:57:04 PM PST

    TUESDAY, Feb. 7 (HealthDay News) -- Cigarette maker British American Tobacco (BAT) developed a strategy to conceal the toxicity of its cigarettes, according to a study published online Tuesday in The Lancet.

    Canadian researchers at the University of Waterloo reviewed internal company documents and found that BAT developed cigarettes that produced low yields of nicotine and tar under standard laboratory testing protocols but, in fact, delivered much higher levels of tar and nicotine to real-life smokers.

    The documents show that BAT was aware that human smokers typically draw puff volumes almost twice as large as the International Standards Smoking (ISO) machine used in testing protocols. BAT sought to maximize the discrepancy between the low machine yields -- which are often printed on cigarette packages and used in marketing campaigns -- and the levels of tar and nicotine actually inhaled by smokers, the researchers said.

    These cigarettes were marketed to health-concerned smokers as low-tar alternatives.

    BAT used this product strategy despite the health risks to smokers, and ignored ethical concerns voiced by its own senior scientists, the study found.

    "Overall, these documents depict a deliberate strategy whereby BAT and ITL (Imperial Tobacco Limited) designed products that would fool their consumers and regulators into thinking these products were safer or less hazardous when they were not," the study authors wrote.




    Read this page in Spanish - Esta pagina en espanol
    Health Effects of Cigarette Smoking
    Fact sheet
    February 2004

    The adverse health effects from cigarette smoking account for 440,000 deaths, or nearly 1 of every 5 deaths, each year in the United States.1,2 More deaths are caused each year by tobacco use than by all deaths from human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), illegal drug use, alcohol use, motor vehicle injuries, suicides, and murders combined.1,3

    Cancer

    * The risk of dying from lung cancer is more than 22 times higher among men who smoke cigarettes, and about 12 times higher among women who smoke cigarettes compared with never smokers.4

    * Cigarette smoking increases the risk for many types of cancer, including cancers of the lip, oral cavity, and pharynx; esophagus; pancreas; larynx (voice box); lung; uterine cervix; urinary bladder; and kidney.5

    * Rates of cancers related to cigarette smoking vary widely among members of racial/ethnic groups, but are generally highest in African-American men.6


    Cardiovascular Disease (Heart and Circulatory System)

    * Cigarette smokers are 2–4 times more likely to develop coronary heart disease than nonsmokers.5

    * Cigarette smoking approximately doubles a person’s risk for stroke.4,7

    * Cigarette smoking causes reduced circulation by narrowing the blood vessels (arteries). Smokers are more than 10 times as likely as nonsmokers to develop peripheral vascular disease.8


    Respiratory Disease and Other Effects

    * Cigarette smoking is associated with a ten-fold increase in the risk of dying from chronic obstructive lung disease.4 About 90% of all deaths from chronic obstructive lung diseases are attributable to cigarette smoking.4,9

    * Cigarette smoking has many adverse reproductive and early childhood effects, including an increased risk for infertility, preterm delivery, stillbirth, low birth weight, and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).9

    * Postmenopausal women who smoke have lower bone density than women who never smoked. Women who smoke have an increased risk for hip fracture than never smokers.9

    "Moreover, this product strategy remains in place today, as does the tool of its deception, the ISO cigarette testing protocols. The current review leaves little doubt that the ISO standards should be discarded in favor of new standards that meet the needs of consumers and regulators, rather than those of the tobacco industry."

    More information

    The U.S. National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion outlines the health effects of smoking.
    http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/factsheets/HealthEffectsofCigaretteSmoking_Factsheet.htm
     
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  17. IHoe

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    I quite 9yrs ago!!! and never went back!!!!
     
  18. GrandpaBW

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    High fives to you, IHoe! If I make it to July, without having a cigarette, I will make it for 9 years, too.

    I did tell my wife that I intend to take up smoking again, when I turn 80. LOLLOL
     
  19. IHoe

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    Ihave quit many times before this..... a couple of times I quit for a year only to make an excuse to go back...... there are no excuses to go back, just rationalizations! I will never go back again!
     
  20. pmaknelho

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    Keep up the hard work gramps. I'm 26 and smoked since i was 16. I have made numerous attempts at quiting(1 week, 2 months, 3 weeks, 5 months) and I always ended up going back. Right now I haven't had one in about 9 weeks and I'm more optomistic this time than others. I did alot of research on cigarettes and nicotine trying to figure why I kept going back? I've got bad news, but if you knwo the truth it might help with the addiction. Nicotine actually mutates the central addiction part of your brain. You WILL probably have cravings the rest of life. Best case scenario studies show you the cravings will stop after 5 years(Even for people than have been smoking for less than a year). Also, everyone has thier own difficult situations where the craving are exponentially increased. For me- heavy drinking, playing poker, golf, and bowling. During all these activities I never go without a pack of normal gum(no nicorete crap). Nicotine is also more harmful to the heart than anything else found in cigarettes, so try really hard not to cheat with gum, patches, or other devices. Once the nicotine is totally out you will have a bad 1-2 weeks of your body detoxifying itself. Diarreha, coughing up green, yellow, brown, red and other shit you've probably never seen before, headaches, stomaches, and mood swings. The two most important things you must realize if you want to be successful.
    1. Nicotine is an addiction and I will problably crave it forever.
    2. I don't need it. I dont need it. I don't need it.

    I hope this info helps and incourages other people to quit. Also tell all the young people you know about the "worst, dumbest, most addictive drug in the universe"
    good luck everyone


    BTW
    @ireland there was a chemist that worked for a cig company that spoke at our school. His team in the 90s or 80s created a compound that that had the same calming effects of nicotine, but wasn't harmful to the heart. The company owns the formula and will never release due to fear of being sued because they knew cigarette were harmful for you. If you want the name to google let me know and I'll ask my principal
     
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