Takes almost a minute to open 'My Computer' from desktop

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  1. neilm247

    neilm247 Regular member

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    Thanks i'll tell my friend and then i'll see how we get on. Btw is drwatson an important program? Because my friend is not into computers much and I don't want him coming back to me with abuse.

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    Thanks a mill berty. Where are my manners???
     
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  2. berty642

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    Hi
    Not a problem, as far as i know it records faults with programmes, when a programme doesnt respond and you get a send error message to microsoft box, but i have been running hassle free for a few weeks witrhout it, make sure he does the search for the report files. Another thing i looked in was START/ ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS/EVENT VIEWER i found out there what was causing my slow shut downs as well, a problem with windows not releasing the registery on shutdown and i got a small programme from microsoft to fix it called uhpclean (i think)
    BTW whats does your sig mean? im in Northern Ireland but i havent a clue:)
     
  3. neilm247

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    The odds of that! Of all the forums in the whole Interweb, a Northie is the first to ask about my sig. Small world! :)
    It means:
    not to be a "hurler on the ditch"..
    A hurler on the ditch then translates to..
    a non-participating critic who thinks they can do better.

    But back to business...so what i'll advise is: after he has tried to unsuccessfully install service pack II, to look for application errors in drwtsn relating to the install. Then to look in event viewer to see the probs with service pack 2 installation. Then if there are none, to remove drwtsn. Then everything will be A.O.K.
    Well sure, i'll check out his logs and post back info about them.
    (I refrained from giggling after that last sentence! Real mature I hear you say??)


     
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  4. Javafriek

    Javafriek Guest

    Well i removed the Dr Watson debugger from registry using the link you provided (thanks by the way) and i'm still having the problem with the slow 'My computer' load times. I'm not running into any errors without Dr Watson though so that's a good thing.

    As long as it isn't destroying my computer i can learn to live with it..but nonetheless it's still highly annoying :)
     
  5. Javafriek

    Javafriek Guest

    Anyone else having trouble with this issue?
     
  6. ScubaBud

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    http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/filemon.shtml

    Use this link above and download the freeware filemon.exe. Run it in the background to see what is running while you try and access your C:\ drive or my computer. Task manager does not show everything that is running in the background but this program will.

    Do you have a program such as Drive Image or Ghost 9.0 running or loaded on your PC?
     
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  8. ireland

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    some info for ye all

    TO CHECK YE PROTECTED FILES AND REPLACE ANY PROTECTED FILES THAT WERE OVER WRITTEN..
    IN WINDOW XP OR 2000 PUT THE WINDOWS INSTALL DISK IN YE CD ROM.
    START,RUN,TYPE *( SFC /SCANNOW )* OK

    .

    scannow sfc (sfc.exe)



    Introduction to using scannow sfc (system file checker)

    Windows XP has the ability to protect itself from system instability caused by
    3rd party software overwriting important system files. This used to be
    (and still is in fact), a problem with Windows 95 and Windows 98.

    With the introduction of Windows Millennium Edition, Microsoft made a real effort to
    stop this from happening. Now in Windows XP we have a much more refined
    protection of these important files.... This system is called:

    Windows File Protection

    By default, Windows File Protection is always enabled and allows Windows
    digitally signed files to replace existing files safely. Currently, signed files are distributed
    through:

    # Windows Service Packs
    # Hotfix distributions
    # Operating system upgrades
    # Windows Update
    # Windows Device Manager

    If you introduce a file replacement in any other way, Windows File protection
    will overwrite your file!

    An important part of Windows File Protection is the command line utility:

    System File Checker (sfc.exe)

    You will often see references to scannow sfc in online newsgroups etc. This is a
    great tool for troubleshooting Windows XP problems.



    How to use scannow sfc...

    The main reason for using this utility is when you suspect there may be a problem with a Windows XP system file.

    Perhaps you get a dialog box appear informing you of a problem with a .dll file, or your program will just not load! It is therefore worth checking to see if there are any corrupt system files using scannow sfc.

    To do this simply go to the Run box on the Start Menu and type in:

    sfc /scannow

    This command will immediately initiate the Windows File Protection service to scan all protected files and verify their integrity, replacing any files with which it finds a problem.

    The following should appear to give an indication of how long the process is taking.







    In an ideal world that would be the end of the story... Any corrupt, missing or incorrect files would be replaced by this process.

    However, things can go wrong and the following guide should help!

    The #1 complaint with scannow sfc is the following dialog box appearing:





    Why does this happen?

    Well, in your computer's registry, are several settings that are checked when you run scannow sfc.

    As mentioned earlier in this article, the Windows File Protection service constantly monitors for any changes to the main system files. Well Windows XP keeps a cache (copy) of these essential files at the following location:

    C:WINDOWS\System32\Dllcache (assuming C: is your system root which it probably is.)

    NB - The dllcache folder is extremely important so Windows XP hides it from you! To view it go to: My Computer > Tools > Folder Options > View > "uncheck" Hide protected operating system files.

    If that's the case on your computer then there is normally no need for the original XP CD to be inserted as your computer has a "copy" it can get hold of in this cache...

    But, if the Dllcache folder, or part of it, has become corrupted for some reason then you will be prompted for the XP CD - so your computer can get a clean copy!

    Having said that not ALL installations of Windows XP have ALL the system files cached into this folder! You may only have around 50MB of files in this folder under Windows XP depending on the quota settings in the registry. (Under Windows 2003 Server the default is 300MB of system files!)

    Annoying, YES!

    Is there a workaround YES!

    As well as having a cache of all the system files on your PC, I like to have the I386 folder from the XP CD installed on the computer as well. After doing this I then modify the registry to tell it the source path for these files... Why? Well not only does this prevent 99% of request for the the XP CD with Windows File Protection. But the I386 folder also contains many other files that are sometimes needed by the operating system and this stops those requests for the XP CD too!

    NB - With today's large hard drives you are not going to notice this 475 MB folder on your computer, but older systems may not have the space for this...

    Step 1

    You will need to get your XP CD and locate the folder called:

    I386

    This is a major folder and should be one of the first you see, now copy this onto your hard drive into the system root. For most of you that is going to be C:\ so you should end up with a folder that looks like: C:\I386

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    Step 2

    Now you will need to tell your computer you now have the files on your PC. We do this is the registry (type regedit in the Run box on the start menu) by navigating to:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup

    You will see various entries here on the right hand side. The one we want is called:

    SourcePath

    It probably has an entry pointing to your CD-ROM drive, and that is why it is asking for the XP CD. All we need to do is change it to:

    C:\

    Simply double click the SourcePatch setting and a new box will pop up allowing you to make the change.

    Now restart your computer and try scannow sfc again!

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    Other Problems with scannow sfc...

    #1

    Has the CD Drive's drive letter changed (perhaps by the addition of another hard drive, partition, or removable drive) since Windows XP was first installed? If so, simply edit the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\SourcePath to reflect the changed drive letter.

    After you restart the computer, WFP and sfc /scannow uses the new source path instead of prompting for the Windows XP installation CD-ROM

    #2

    Has the registry key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\SourcePath got an incorrect entry? The SourcePath entry does NOT include the path location till the I386 folder. It completes one folder ahead to reach the I386 folder.

    Example:

    If the I386 directory is at C:\I386, the SourcePath value would be C:\

    #3

    If the problem persists and you have the correct path for your I386 folder then the I386 folder is corrupted. To solve this problem copy I386 folder from the CD-ROM to your system restart the system and then
    perform sfc /scannow again.

    #4

    You do not have an XP retail CD with an I386 folder on it. If you have a restore CD from your PC manufacturer then you may have to explore the CD to find the folder.

    #5

    You still keep being prompted for the XP CD yet you have done all in this article! There is another setting in the registry that may be causing the problem. Navigate to:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SourcePath

    Make sure the entry here is the same path to the I386 folder as used above.

    #6

    Systems administrators can enforce security policies that may include changes to the Windows File Protection settings. You will need to speak with your network administrator about this, but it is important to bear in mind when Windows starts up, the Windows File Protection service synchronizes (copies) the WFP settings from the following registry key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\Windows File Protection

    to the following registry key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

    Therefore, if any of the following values are present in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows NT\Windows File Protection key, they will take precedence over the same values under the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon key.

    This will not effect scannow sfc so much, but WILL make an impact if any of the other sfc.exe "switches" have been used! (More about these at the end of this article.)

    #7

    When you run scannow at logon you do not get a progress bar... This can easily be remedied by adding a new DWORD: SFCShowProgress to the registry key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

    the values available are: 0 = disabled, 1 = enabled

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    What about Windows Updates.....

    You may be asking yourself how does sfc.exe know how to check for updated Windows system files? Well during OS upgrades, service pack installations etc.. the dllcache folder should be updated with these new files.

    As an example the recent Windows XP Hotfix - KB828035 updated the system file wkssvc.dll A new version of the file was placed in C:\WINDOWS\system32 and a copy in the cache: C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllcache A copy of the old system file is archived in: C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB828035$

    There is another location the Windows File protection service uses and that is the I386 folder in C:\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles When you install a service pack, like SP1. Any new system drivers are cached in this location too.

    If you have odd problems with running scannow sfc and nothing else in the article has resolved it, then take a look at the entry in:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup
    \ServicePackSourcePath

    This should be pointing to the location C:\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles (assuming C:\ is the boot drive.)
     
  9. shoes1111

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    Long delay before files appear in My Computer in Windows XP:

    here is how to fix this problem from microsuck support. i tried to install flash 8 onto my computer and this 'my computer' problem started. very annoying.

    1. Click Start, and then click Control Panel.
    2. Double-click Administrative Tools.
    3. Double-click Component Services.
    4. Click Services.
    5. In the Services (Local) list, right-click Windows Image Acquisition (WIA), and then click Stop.
    6. If the WIA is set to automatic, WIA will turn on again and make My Computer load slow, so highlight WIA and go to action and properties.
    7. Select disabled from startup type.

    this does the trick, at least in my situation.

     
  10. aabbccdd

    aabbccdd Guest

    is it a really good idea to run two virse scan programs? my understanding is that it is not

    have you try deleting the shortcut and click start then my computer going that route
     
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  11. Walking

    Walking Guest

    my idea is just reinstall the windows.
    it takes few hours but it get bloody fast because all dam softwares are gone.
    im keep reinstalling windows once a year
     
  12. mpritc101

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    I had this same problem, along with an empty Device Manager as well. If you click on the link below, scroll to #107, then click on "Restore the Device Manager" it should correct the problem.

    http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
     

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