Even if you tell them there's no guarantee that they'll listen to your advice. I've been trying to get my parents to get rid of their 1ghz P3's for years yet they don't listen.
Red_Maw, That's exactly what I'm talking about! If you were to replace their old P4, for $400 and get them that Acer, They would think they had stepped into the Future! LOL!! They would be happy beyond words! That's where the Perceived Value is! Best Regards, Russ
Haha we have HP Slimlines at school with about as much internal space as a Gamecube. And they ALL have an E6750 with 2GB of RAM and an 8400GS. Every single PC at my tech school is easily fast enough for 1080p.
That's been the spec of most of the slimline PCs I've used, maybe a bit inferior, but for whatever reason they certainly don't seem to perform like one. An X2 7350 would be even worse.
These PCs do perform quite well and certainly within what mine could do. I've played with them a lot in the computer lab
Estuansis, I've had a few of them that have had AMD Dual Cores in them, and I know a 4600+ SlimLine runs as fast as the 4800+ in Oxi. I had another which had a 4050e and it was very impressive! Even the cooling amazes me! The SlimLines seem to be very good quality, and is extremely solid! It impressed me with what that tiny case weighed! Russ
That's because the 4600+ and 4800+ are almost identical, the 4600 just has less cache Seemingly I just got unlucky with the ones I used... :S
Sam, They both have the same amount of cache. These were both 65nm Brisbanes, and the HP SlimLine had the newer chipset! The older socket AM2 90nm Windsor had more L2 cache! Russ
I'm at Nvidia right now trying to D/L Drivers for 9400 GT . All I can seem to get is this Fricken DriverRobot, scan my Computer then wants 29.95 Frick that
The 4600+ and 4800+ 939 chips were 1MB/2MB offerings at 2.4Ghz respectively. The 4600+ and 4800+ AM2 Windsor and Brisbane CPUs both had 1MB cache, but they varied the clock speed instead, 2.4 to 2.5Ghz. Don't use driverguide for graphics drivers, you won't get anywhere near the latest ones, and that's a big problem with graphics drivers, as many releases are withdrawn for bugfixes, but they'll still remain at DG. The nvidia site isn't that hard to use to be fair.
This is the card I've got MSI N94GT-MD512 GeForce 9400 GT 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127412 Which of these Drivers do I need N9400GT-512MX-F N9400GT-512DZ-F Or does it matter
Go here: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us Select your card (Geforce 9 series) and OS and proceed from there.
Sam, I neglected to mention that the reason the 4600+ in the Slimline is as fast as the 4800+ with the nVidia 430 chipset, is the newer chipsets perform better, even with the older CPUs. Especially in motherboards with AMD chipsets! When you say "they varied the clock speed", what do you mean? Stock the 4600+ is 2.4GHz, while the 4800+ is 2.5GHz. When I bought the 4800+, it was on sale, and was $5 cheaper than the 4600+, so to me the 4800+ was the better chip at a cheaper price (under $40)! Russ
As I said in the previous post, the difference between the 939 4600 and 4800 was the 1MB vs 2MB of cache, they were both 2.4Ghz. With the AM2 chips, instead of varying the cache size, they varied the clock speed, 2.4 and 2.5Ghz.