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why would you use the gtx480 at 2560 if not the 5870?

fail price btw. thats the load my 4870x2 used to hit aswell.

 

but your 4870x2 used less power

 

I think I see a 5870 or two 5850's in my future lol.

 

I quite agree. The GTX400 series is utter fail.

 

i was optomistic before launch but after it......

theres fail, then theres the 2900XT then there are these. (though the GTX480 not as much as the GTX470)

 

Wow I'm actually impressed by how much fail that is. In fact I can see it now...
Nvidia will become the new benchmark of failure. You'll be on Youtube one day only to spot 'you fail harder then the Nvidia' in the comment box among other insults.

In fact I've been inspired to make a commemorative picture using the specification's



Edit: Oh yeah you need to actually put the image as an image otherwise it's just a link....

 

Just Cause 2
Low Quality
Minimal: Radeon X1800XL/HD2900 series/HD3650/HD4550/HD5450 or above, Geforce 7800GT/8600 series/9500 series/GT220 or above
Reduced: Radeon X1950XT/HD2900 series/HD3690/HD4670/HD5570 or above, Geforce 8800 series/9600GSO G92/GT240 or above
Moderate: Radeon HD3870/HD4700 series/HD5700 series or above, Geforce 8800GTS G92/9800GTX/GTS250 or above
Good NoAA: Radeon HD4850/HD5770 or above, GTX280/275 or above
Good 2xAA: Radeon HD4860/HD5770 or above, GTX280/275 or above
Optimal NoAA: Radeon HD4870X2/HD5830 or above, GTX295/GTX470 or above
Optimal 4xAA: Radeon HD4870X2/HD5870 or above, GTX295/GTX470 or above
Extreme NoAA: Radeon HD5830CF/HD5970 or above, GTX280 TriSLI/GTX470 SLI or above
Extreme 8xAA: Radeon HD5970CF or above, GTX295 QuadSLI/GTX480 SLI or above

Medium Quality
Minimal: Radeon X1800XT/HD2900 series/HD3650/HD4650/HD5570 or above, Geforce 7900GT/8600GTS/9500GT/GT220 or above
Reduced: Radeon HD2900 Pro/HD3800 series/HD4670/HD5570 or above, Geforce 8800 series/9600GSO G92/GT240 or above
Moderate: Radeon HD4700 series/HD5700 series or above, Geforce GTX260 or above
Good NoAA: Radeon HD4870/HD5800 series or above, Geforce GTX285 or above
Good 2xAA: Radeon HD4890/HD5800 series or above, Geforce GTX285 or above
Optimal NoAA: Radeon HD4870X2/HD5850 or above, Geforce GTX295/GTX480 or above
Optimal 4xAA: Radeon HD4870X2/HD5870 or above, Geforce GTX295
Extreme NoAA: Radeon HD5850CF/HD5970 or above, Geforce GTX280 QuadSLI/GTX480 SLI or above
Extreme 8xAA: RadeoN HD5870QuadCF, Geforce GTX480 Tri-SLI or above

Maximum Quality
Minimal: Radeon X1900XT/HD2900 series/HD3650/HD4650/HD5570 or above, Geforce 7900GT/8600GTS/9500GT/GT220 or above
Reduced: Radeon HD2900XT/HD3800 series/HD4670/HD5570 or above, Geforce 8800 series/9600GSO G92/GT240 or above
Moderate: Radeon HD4770/HD4850/HD5700 series or above, Geforce GTX260 or above
Good NoAA: Radeon HD4890/HD5800 series or above, Geforce GTX285 or above
Good 2xAA: Radeon HD5830 or above, Geforce GTX295/GTX470 or above
Optimal NoAA: Radeon HD4870X2/HD5870 or above, Geforce GTX295/GTX480 or above
Optimal 4xAA: Radeon HD5830CF/HD5970 or above, Geforce GTX285 SLI/GTX470 SLI or above
Extreme NoAA: Radeon HD5870CF or above, Geforce GTX280 QuadSLI/GTX480 SLI or above
Extreme 8xAA: GTX480 Tri-SLI or above

Maximum Quality with PhysX Water
Minimal: Geforce 8800 series/9600 series/GT220 or above
Reduced: Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GT240 or above
Moderate: Geforce GTX280/GTX275 or above
Good NoAA: Geforce GTX295/GTX470 or above
Good 2xAA: Geforce GTX295/GTX480 or above
Optimal NoAA: Geforce GTX280 Tri-SLI/GTX470 SLI or above
Optimal 4xAA: Geforce GTX280 Tri-SLI/GTX470 SLI or above
Extreme NoAA: Geforce GTX480 Tri-SLI or above
Extreme 8xAA: Geforce GTX480 Quad-SLI


Note the devastating effect of Anti-Aliasing on ATI cards. Oddly, the game is ATI-favourable if this fact is excluded.

 

So, XFX have decided not to produce ANY Geforce GTX400 based cards, either because as they say, they don't think they're good enough, or as rumours say, because nvidia disallowed it due to XFX being ATI-collaborating scum. Either way, pretty lulzy.
So what have the XFX R&D team been up to?
Well, it comes from ATI, and it's faster than the GTX400 series, which can only mean one thing. It's an HD5970 relative. What XFX have been working on, is codename Petunia.
Two HD5870 GPUs at full clocks, with 2GB of memory per GPU, on one board.

In XFX's case, this card has a limited production run of 1500. Whether the other brands choose to use a limited production run isn't stated, but if so much as the three brands so far confirmed to be producing the cards all produce only 1500 (Asus, Sapphire and XFX) then that still makes as many of these monsters as GTX480s currently exist. Sobering thought.

Up until now, the school of thought has been that such cards would cost 'around' $1000. This translates into an astronomical figure of £850 for UK users. However, off the record, AMD have said they expect the UK price figure to be in the £700 area, and low 700s at that, which prices the Petunia offering very close to that of two normal 5870s, which would only have 1GB of memory each. On the record, XFX have also said they expect to sell their card for 'around' $100 above the normal HD5970 asking price in the US, which is $800. This would also translate to around £700 in europe.
Supposedly, benchmarks of these cards are likely to appear by the middle of next month, and we will see just how hot the competition is between GTX480 SLI and Petunia. Exciting times.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1263/1/

 

<--- about as jealous as they come...

Sure wish I had the money. I'm friggin drooling LOL!

 

The GTX400 series sucks. They saw it, I saw it, everyone saw it. Attempting to support the product is useless. This is a worse fail than the HD2900XT. Yeah... I said it.

Well you can count me out I plan to spend no more than $600 altogether on TWO separate GPUs.

LOL again, GTX400 is fail. Even ATi didn't have supply issues like this. AFAIK the HD2900XT was actually realistic to find and purchase. The GTX480... well good luck finding one.

Well considering the GTX480 is only ~5-10% faster than the 5870, I think Crossfire's legendary scaling will pick up the rest of the slack. I think both platforms will be on even footing performance-wise, but the GTX480 is still a waste of money because the 5870 is miles cheaper...

 

I'm liking the sound of this there codename Petunia. Nvidia will lose the more money then sense market to it and will be forced to try something different like errm competitive pricing? Fingers crossed anyways.

 

To be fair Jeff, at 1920x1200, the extra memory is useless to you, and given that you can use Eyefinity without the 6-port cards, so is that feature (as it would be to me as well). You would see the most benefit out of either an HD5970 or two 5850s/5870s in crossfire.

 

This game looks interesting
L.A. Noire

 

This is a PC gaming thread, you shouldn't really be posting about console-only titles

 

You're kidding...

I didn't realize that. I apologize. I imagine eventually it WILL be though

 

whats wrong with that?

games are games.

ie God of War 3

 

To be honest as well, 99% of PC gamers are using a smaller resolution than mine. So 5850s are a realistic upgrade for me anyway. Maybe my view would be different with the larger monitor, but then so would my budget ;P

 

I wouldn't say 99%, maybe 85-90%. Even so, 1920x1200 makes two HD5850s a much more viable upgrade.

 

Ahh, but what if there's a 30" dell upgrade in His/My future I know I've been saying that for a while now, but I really do NEED that dell monitor LOL!

 

Even though I want a HD 5870 it doesn't make any sense for me to get one since my monitor's max resolution is 1680x1050; I'll be getting one of these. Do you guy's think the Sapphire Toxic edition is worth the extra $60?