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its definitely fast past. i played the beta, and couldn't adjust to the tiny maps they've given you. the other fact that if you can get to a high point you can snipe with an assault rifle. Ive always had a beef with people making the AK-47 in games to be very accurate, when in fact they spread like a wet whore in auto. single fire isn't so bad.

 

Could be worse. In Bad Company 2 the AN-94 assault rifle is more accurate at ultra-long range than most of the snipers.

 

its also overpowered considering its supposed to be one of the AK-100 variants firing the smaller 5.45 ammunition, the gun of choice for nubs I'm sure.

 

Actually the AN-94 IS 7.62mm in Bad Company 2. Same as the G3. And yes it's very accurate and powerful but I don't think overpowered per se. The only change I think it could use is lowering the firing rate a little and upping the recoil. Weapons like the M4 or the M16 are supposed to be more accurate, but the M4 is actually weaker per round than the M16 and less accurate than the AN-94(in game terms of course). While it should do the same damage as the M16 and be more accurate than the AN.

Just a heads-up, got me an HK416 today cheap It's an M4 completely customized in a joint venture between H&K and the US Navy SEALS. The one I got is chambered for .22LR but that can be fixed as easily as changing the upper receiver, which takes all of 30 seconds... Again, fully registered weapon guys, all of my guns are legit.

 

You know that never really occurred to me, but I guess I do use the Gol for a reason lol. It's a good thing I hardly ever come across anyone who uses the AN-94, most prefer the M16A2 (and I still like my UMP-45 despite it not being as good as the AKS-47u).

Jeff, Nice going with the HK416 I'd love to increase my collection but I don't have the money or time to use the one's I already have :\

 

LOL! I didn't think anything but I always give the benefit of the doubt. It comes naturally to me. Call it gullible, call it trusting, or whatever

Kind of funny, One of my relatives has a large collection of guns in his safe. Never realy been into shooting much. I sure get a kick out of it gaming though. Damn near begs me to go shoot too. I guess we all have our preferences

 

most of my guns i have now are handme downs, some are from my Grandfathers chest. one weapon in particular always interested me not the gun that's particular interesting but how my grandfather was able to keep it. considering its a .30 caliber machine gun and it looks like the M1919 with Some kind of modification like it was supposed to be used like a rifle it looks like there was a rifle stock riveted to the receiver and a steel ring on the barrel for a forward grip. that's my guess, thing is i cant see my grandfather running around with a machine gun mowing down japs. not to mention his designation was rifleman.

 

I'm not a major gun nut myself but a few of my friends were into the culture and I learned fast. I believe there are some pics of me and my buddy Kyle at the shooting range earlier in this thread. He is the one who showed me how to service my own AK and he let me learn ARs using one of his AR-15s. From there it sort of mushroomed into a hobby. He is also the one who hooked me up with the HK416 cheap from a wholesaler using his preferred account.

Honestly I don't do much more than go to the firing range a few times a month and hunt deer. Specifically the reason I wanted the HK416, I plan to use my hunting scope on it in conjunction with some of my friend's 5 round magazines. Picatinny railmount for the win

 

Ho ho! Haven't played any games in a while. My buddy just asked for some cheats recently. So I thought I'd play this one. The trailer made it look interesting. Hope so

 

I have no idea what that game is, Kevin, and since it doesn't look like a shooter, I guess I never will, lol.

By the way, fresh back from a trip to LA, I hear there's a new mp shooter coming down the pike from the V guys - 5 against 5 - but maybe a year away - sort of a top-down like the game they just gave away, whose name I forget, but the full V quality we have grown to know and love.

That has me licking my lips for 2012 2560x1600 glory! I bet Jeff buys a 30" by then, unless some other hot (legit) gun makes it to his wholesaler.

But with a TDP cap of 300 watts per card, probably not two of those chips on a single card, at full clocks. But still, an overclocked version back up to regular clocks, with heat pipe cooler, at 400 watts, is probably what we're looking at right now with a 900 mhz 4 gig 5970, I imagine.

WAY TO GO KEV!!

You pre-ordered it! You must have liked it, that's for sure! I've been closely looking at the advertising - is it multiplayer only, or does it also come with a single player campaign - either way of course I'll be getting it.

Jeff, what's a "twitch shooter?" Do you mean enemies around every corner? I kind of liked COD4 mp, and I was planning to get back up to my 5 star general ranking (I stupidly didn't back-up my ranking file, and now I'm down to corporal) unless I get carried away with something else.

Hahaha. Good point. Well, Jeff should be able to provide some relevant comment, since he's the proud owner of an AK, with no less than a 100 round drum clip.

Jeff - I have to agree with DXR, I've heard you really can't hit the broad side of a barn with an AK, even in single shot mode. I've seen it in the YouTube videos. So let me ask you straight - if you're lying prone, and really trying, like with the gun on single shot, if it lets you select that like the M16 does, can you hit a bullseye with an AK at 50 yards?

Rich

 

LOL! Sorry Rich. It's Fallout 3. Most of the people in this thread are hard core gamers, so I figured 9/10 people would recognize it

 

Well the AK-47 is a 7.62mm round and is actually very accurate. It's main weakness is a short distance between the sightposts. With a scope, a good quality AK has an effective range of 380-400 yards. Of course something like an M-16 has about 600 yard of effective range, but the design is also 20 years newer. My main point being, the AK-47 isn't amazing, but people saying they're not nice to shoot? They can't shoot or have a cheap AK. I have no problem being accurate with one.

 

Haha yes I recognised it, though I haven't played the game much at all. I do need to play more of it at some point.

A twitch shooter is a game with simplistic physics, where lightning-fast reactions pay dividends as everything's spontaneous, and guns are as accurate as they are programmed.
Stuff like Unreal Tournament, Quake and the likes. Here's an example of twitch gaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhi259zyakU

Instagib is a classic mode as the guns are 100% accurate and have infinite projectile speed, as well as dealing full damage. It's basically more like tag. If they're in your crosshairs when the gun goes off, they die. Simple as.

 

That Twitch game looks interesting. Some of the sound effects had me rolling LOL! Looks pretty intense!

 

you can get about two rounds out at 300 yards, anything more than and your barrels is flailing about like a hot-dog down a hallway. its not a bad gun considering its age, and newer models carry there successor's advancements which nearly eliminate all of the true AK-47 issue's.

 

Thanks for the great video illustrating what Jeff meant by a "twitch" shooter. Frantic! Fun for a short while I would say, but not really my style.

Shooting an AWP - Arctic White Hunter - in counter strike is similar in some ways - if you hit any part of their body, they are dead! That part is accurate - a genuine sniper round packs so much power, a flesh wound pretty much incapacitates you - "where is a medic" is your next thought, assuming you're still alive. And the bullet travels at infinite speed. Of course that part is not true. I was reading just now on google that the bullet on some of the really long-range sniper weapons may be airborne for as long as 2 seconds.

Anyway, for counter strike, yes the bullet travels at infinite speed. The only caveat is - don't snipe if you have a ping of more than 100 ms - they will move to safety by the time the server takes note of the fact that you should have killed them if your ping wasn't so bad, lol.

In my opinion, the best sniper bit, the one that seemed the most accurate to me, was the one in COD4 where you shoot the guy's arm off. I swear I decapitated him, but whatever - I understand he has to survive for me to blow his brains out at the end of the game. You had a very heavy sniper weapon - like an AWP - and you had an observer, and you were told to take careful account of the wind, and even the coriolis effect. As a player you can't do much about coriolis, because you don't know at what angle you are shooting relative to the rotation of the earth, but for wind, you watch the flags on the Russian cars.

The bullet remained in flight for about a half second as I recall, and you saw its path - although I don't think that part is accurate unless you're shooting a tracer round, and you wouldn't shoot a tracer round for a sniper shot like that. Right?

Anybody think they've ever played a more accurate sniper session in any game, than that COD4 scene?

On another note, Shaff talked about the beta for Medal of Honor, so I hurried over to File Planet to download it. Of course Shaff is only about a week late, no more beta. Thanks dude. I don't stay current on these things, so mention the beta when it is still out, okay? - just kidding - no I'm serious

Hmmm, that's very interesting. So the main weakness, is lack of a scope. Otherwise, they have excellent accuracy. Very interesting.

Yeah, I know the M16 is more accurate, but it also is a much lighter bullet - more the size of a 22 round travelling very fast. The advantage is that you can carry a lot of rounds. But the disadvantage is that each round doesn't have nearly as much punch, such as the ability to penetrate brush and hit the target. But if you do hit somebody, it tends to tumble around inside of any person it hits causing quite a bit of damage. You have to be quite conscious of cleanliness, oiling, and keeping off dust and debris, much less so with an AK.

In that case, Jeff, given the poor sightpost positioning, let's say you didn't have a scope. Do you figure you could still hit prone bullseyes from 50 yards out, without the scope?

Hmmm, how do they do that? Better sightposts?

Then that begs the question - are the adversaries we face in Afghanistan using the newer, better AKs, or the older ones the Russians brought in 20-30 years ago? Probably a mix depending on the Taliban's weapon suppliers, which probably varies throughout the country. According to google several factories around the world still build the AK, apart from the many located here in the states.

I took note of the following as I looked for the non-existent beta: Out of sensitivity to the war effort, in a last minute change, which still failed to get the product carried at military exchanges, you no longer play Medal of Honor MP as a Taliban, but as the Opposing Force. That sounds right to me - it's a war we're in right now. "Hey guys, we've been shooting at Taliban all day - Homer's got his hot video game PC his brother just shipped him - let's play Medal of Honor. There's a server nearby for it. I'll be on the Taliban side."

LOL I don't think so!

Rich

 

a mix of the old 47's(most are more than likely the type 51 clone) and the newer 74's, but they seem to shoot whatever they can get there hands on. improvising buggers ill give'm that.

 

Omega: Unreal Tournament 2004 Instagib, in capture the flag mode. Is intense, and lulzy

 

at least it lives up to the Unreal part, eh.

 

That does look fun! I imagine there are countless games I'd be itching to play, if I were aware of them