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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Sep 13, 2010.

  1. omegaman7

    omegaman7 Senior member

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    No! The dreaded fan LOL! That looks very similar to the one ;) Though all fans resemble one another.
     
  2. omegaman7

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    Hot swappable my butt! I unplugged a drive, fine and good. But when I plugged in the power cable first, to the replacement drive, bluescreen! It's as though there was a power interrupt to either the OS drive, or another drive that had a process underway. Apparently this is not uncommon either. Have you ever attempted hot swapping Sam, Russ? You ever get a blue screen from attempting it? Keep in mind, the drive I was disconnecting had no current processes. I did not confuse windows. Or at least it shouldn't have. It was RIGHT when I connected the power cable to the replacement drive. My guess is an instability was introduced to one or more drives. Thought I had a good power supply. But perhaps most power supplies don't like the hot swap process?
     
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    Hot swapping without AHCI is a nono, and I often find it doesn't work. With AHCI on though, I don't usually have any issues, I hotswap drives dozens of times in a day sometimes.
     
  4. omegaman7

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    AHCI is enabled on all my controllers :( Has to have been a power instability. I did use the safe remove tool too.
     
  5. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    FWIW, I never bother with that...
     
  6. omegaman7

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    Yah, sometimes when I have my dock connected, I'll try and safely remove a drive, but windows is doing something with it in the background. And yet no user operations are going on. Not sure what it's doing, but I just remove it anyway.
     
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    you have to plug them in perfectly, they'll do that if all the pins don't touch at the same time.
     
  8. omegaman7

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    I'll probably try it again, when all my transfers are complete. I'm dumping two of my WD1001FALS drives, so that I can sell them :) I wish I could sell the third, but I'm currently using it for OS. I'm still not sure what I'm gonna do with the Velociraptor. I think there's only 1 reallocated sector, which is rather trivial. But I wonder if the controller is shoddy. I know the last one was. I'm pretty sure it had a dedicated Rail for power too.
     
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    Sam, your hotswapping involves the zalman PSU correct?

    I find it interesting that I have a single rail, and you have 6.
     
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    Both Darkstar II and Voyager hot swap on a regular basis.
    Voyager uses an 850W Zalman (4x18A + 2x28A). Darkstar II uses a 530W Nexus (1x41A)
     
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    Perhaps there's merit to what DXR88 says.
     
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    Possibly. Although I hotswap drives routinely, I very rarely apply power live, they are being hotswapped externally using a dock, which is switched off until after the drive is attached.
     
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    YOu use a dock then. I'm talking about an internal swap.
     
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    hdd prices have jumped 2 fold!
     
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    My eyes well up for everyone. However, at the same time, I see the opportunity to help myself as well ;)
     
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    Oman7,

    I haven't had any difficulties with hot-swappable drives, and never had a blue screen from one.

    Russ
     
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    Already got most of the storage I need thankfully, though this does put off a distant planned storage/backup upgrade. Possibly for the best.
     
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    Russ, do you usually plug the power in first, and then the data cable? Remember, I'm talking internal motherboard hot swapping. I've gotten device not recognized errors in the past, from not plugging the power in first. That's why I do it that way.
     
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    You probably created an arch when swapping the power. Always connect power to the drive before connecting the data cable. Molex power cables are the worst and have caused me the most problems.
     

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