The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition

Nooooo. The two sinks are different as in "Witch" and "Which". Different words entirely... There is nothing being sunk as in a sinking ship, sinking hopes, sinking temperatures or sinking into the muck. This is not the same word, it is not the same meaning, we are not talking about sinking in any sense. It does not mean lowering of anything in any way. The fact that heatsinks are used to cool things is entirely separate from their name. They aren't meant to cool things, they are meant to conduct heat, and cold is simply the lack of heat. To sink the heat is simply to carry it from one area to another. Heat is not pushed, pulled, or propelled. It flows of its own accord through the properties of conduction, convection, or radiation. ...Am I seriously giving a physics lesson here?

 

I'm very good in physics and yes it is sinking the heat and yes you can find other definitions just like the one I gave and provided reference too. I'm 100% correct, sorry!

Also I never said that heat was pushed, pulled, or whatever.
"To sink the heat is simply to carry it from one area to another." This is what my reference states and by doing so you lower the heat, it's pretty basic really.

 

I'd certainly appreciate your input steve. So if you think of anything, I'm all ears. The case is due for a cleaning. So I'm probably gonna take some measurements, and pics tomorrow, to see exactly what I'm up against.
I'm also entertaining a lesser wattage chip.

 

i love it when a nice trolling session comes together. it was a joke guys no need to fight over it

 

Well I'm certainly not trying to be aggressive or overbearing. So if I come off that way, please feel free to give me a slap on the wrist and a hearty "No". lol

The way I write and think about things is in my nature, so sometimes I come off as rude when I'm really just a very frustrated cynic with no faith in humanity. I sometimes forget that's why we few have gathered here... Especially lately I've been ranting with no real cause and being pretty cocky for no reason. So the actual arguments aside, I am sorry everyone. I often realize the tone of my typing way too late, and there's no excuse for my demeanor.

 

I do the same thing as well but try to keep my rants to a minimum and also try not to go on and on about things as well. We are all human and if we are adults we should be able to handle criticism or even insult without a total break down. I could go on but there should be no need.

No problems here for sure, I good debate is normally a good thing.

@Kevin,
I'll dig around and see if there are some options for you but as you already know it is hard to find solutions for that style of case. I wish I had an old Xeon server heat sink laying around as they were monstrous and could be modified possibly for your situation.

Here are two other possibilities, I like the 140mm fan system but I would replace the fan with a PMW to keep noise down but still provide maximum airflow when required. However even with airflow at 94.7CFM, noise is only at 33.5dBA which would be higher than I would want full time but is pretty decent for that volume of air. I didn't see that they listed the fan as variable.

Thermalright AXP-140 RT Low Profile HTPC Heatsink

CHEAPER & LOWER PROFILE
Nexus LOW-7000 R2 Socket LGA 1366/1156/775/AMD AM3/2, 7CM Low Profile Cooler

Akasa Low Profile AMD CPU Cooler - Mini-ITX and Micro-ATX

 

Thermaltake's fan noise ratings are measured at around 10 metres versus the standard 1m, so they're completely unusable as ratings.

 

I like the look of both of those Steve. He'd prefer not spend any money at the moment. We're noticing that the vent above the CPU plugs EASILY! I'm gonna look at removing it, and installing a grill. I lowered the CPU voltage another step, and seems stable. It's currently running at 1.25V @ 2.2Ghz. I stressed the CPU for 6 minutes. The temperature remained below 50C, and the fan never got loud. Of course it can breath now. Once it plugs, airflow will diminish again. The screen on top is the problem...

 

http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/cpu/120/scbsk2000_index.html

im a sucker for scythe, though i cant attest to anything HTPC related as thats just not my cup'o tea. im pretty sure if this product follows there quality line up you shouldn't see any issue with it.

 

Thanks DXR88. I'll definitely keep that badboy in mind for future builds!

 

That's nice and cheaper than the lower priced 140mm I supplied but has much less airflow at the same decibel level and both are PWM fans. Either would be good but I'd pay the little extra and get the 140mm if room in his case would support that width/hight of course.

But great pick DXR88!

 

Heh, my 'HTPC' is a full tower - only case that fits enough hard disks

 

Mine too until I get it into my new Shuttle and if I need more HDD space I'll attach a NAS enclosure or something in that vein instead of having a big bulky PC in my entertainment center. My HTA (Home Theater Amplifier) likes network drives anyhow so I don't need massive hard drive space in my HTPC.

 

Indeed. Aesthetics are fairly meaningless to me. Of course, one day I'll have an entertainment stand. Depending on its physical characteristics, a new tower may be my only option. But I'm aware of sooo many ways of doing things, that I doubt I would ever have to settle with a typical HTPC configuration. Essentially, the PC could be offsite from the entertainment stand.

 

Meanwhile, bitterly disappointed as it seems the first consumer-oriented '4K HD' display is in fact, just a marketing gimmick - a genuine 3840x2160 panel, but with no inputs that will take anything beyond a 1080p signal.

A few years yet then, before 2560x1600 is dethroned as the highest resolution available to the masses.

 

Which will keep displays like yours fairly expensive I really want a 30" display too.

 

The $1200 asking price for the current 30" displays is peanuts.
The Toshiba 55ZL2 in question is $9000 which would have been about right under the circumstances.
In lack of the ability of that to display proper 3840x2160 images though, the only currently available device to do it is the Eizo FHD3601, which is $35,000.

 

No surprise there and I sure would like to have your's too.

 

Have also wanted a 30" display really bad but I can't justify it unless the rest of my system matches the performance requirements. Currently 1920 x 1200 is a good medium because it forces me to keep my hardware relatively up to date while allowing me to "buy ahead" and create a good buffer between upgrades. Also allows me to bump over to 1080p seamlessly with little to no performance difference. I think the extra 120 vertical pixels have only made a difference when it's a memory limit.

 

My DVI KVMA is the only limiting device in my main systems otherwise no problems upgrading to higher resolutions. My next step will be a 27" most probably but it would be nice to have Sam's 30". I'm not aware of any digital KVM's that can handle that resolution even business ones.