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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by ddp, Sep 13, 2010.

  1. ddp

    ddp Moderator Staff Member

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    thought so but had to ask. is drawing air into the case even without the roof fan because of your psu fan.
     
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    shaffaaf Regular member

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    My psu is at the bottom of the case. I have 3 roof fans, and I am using them to blow cold air into the case. To one of these fans I have the h50 radiator attached. And then another fan under the radiator in a push and oull configuration.
     
  3. Mr-Movies

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    With -30c being pumped in from Canada you could really over clock hard and keep you temps down! LOL :D
     
  4. theonejrs

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    I'm about done with Russell's new Phenom IIx4 965BE, and I'm happy to say it turned out great. The 965BE is a surprisingly powerful Quad core at stock 3.4GHz, for under $100. Here's some benches and temps:

    CPU Math

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    Memory Bandwidth

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    Temps

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    As you can tell from the temps, the case cools superbly. The key seems to be the two 4 pin PWM fan ports on the motherboard. The lower one, controls the system fan in the side cover's top fan port (My addition), and keeps the system much cooler than without it. It's extremely quiet as well! As mid-tower cases go, this one is pretty large, and can handle 8 PCI-e cards up to 316mm long.

    Boy is my face red! I just "found the switch" for the fan lights! LOL!! Fiber Optics, instead of CFL's, cool! Lot's of working room, as well!

    EDIT:

    Here's a pic of all the wiring cleaned up. Looks pretty good!

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    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
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    theonejrs Senior member

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    Sam,

    And you are from what planet? LOL!! Most of the world is unfettered capitalism these days. Make a buck at any cost, as long as it's not your cost! LOL!! Your imagination needs upgrading to the 21st Century. You watch though, there will eventually be a public outcry about power consumption from computers, and the Govt will create a special tax, based on power consumption of PCs. Just like always, those well off enough, can afford to abuse the privilege!

    I decided to spoil myself a little more, and ordered another Corsair 400R case, a Corsair H60 LCS, and the same fans as the Phenom IIx4 965! It's time to retire the Cooler Master R-534+, in favor of better cooling and the more modern look of the 400R. Classy enough to fit in with fine furniture, and the cooling and cable management systems are very well thought out. It's an extremely quiet case, and needs one less fan to do the same job, MB temperature wise, that I had in the R-534+. It's also a lot roomier inside.

    Best Regards,
    Russ
     
  7. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Sorry, what?

    I was merely stating that what Omega was surprised at, has happened, for some time.
    Why does that make me out of touch exactly?
     
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    theonejrs Senior member

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    Sam,

    Actually, I just noticed that I should have sent this to Kevin. Oh well, I was just fooling with you anyway, but the business world today is full of people as crooked as they come, when deciding on how to make a buck! The lawmakers will back anything big business wants. They are one and the same as far as I'm concerned, all are members of the villains, Thieves and Pirates union, so I'm certainly not surprised!

    Russ
     
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    So true Russ!
     
  10. omegaman7

    omegaman7 Senior member

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    I understand where Russ is coming from. But I also understand that pushing a product out at regular intervals is also important to a company. Even if it isn't quite ready. They need to receive some return to back their efforts ;) Much like software developers. Push it out, and have the general public test it. Of course when it comes to software, it really DOES need to reach the general public to work out bugs, that won't necessarily be noticed in a testing environment. They can't exactly buy every hardware configuration. Although it might be possible to emulate it. But perhaps not.
     
  11. sammorris

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    Case in point perhaps, I'm excited about the new Nexus 10 Tablet, a first really since apart from the ipad none of the tablets out there have really interested me - I note, however, the device is a really awkward shape, as a result of apple winning the US lawsuit saying they own the rights to manufacture straight edge devices with rounded corners...
     
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    Crapple would probably sue me, if I used their logo for an avatar. Pretty sad really.
     
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    You guys ever see PC speakers like these? What I mean, is they only have one cord. No power... so it seems they are powered much like head phones. But surely not every port is gonna be equipped to deal with these, eh?
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    How do you think headphones work? Speakers can be powered by 3.5mm jacks but they need a decent sound output powering them. PC onboard audio is better now than it was, but those won't be very loud :p

    It is, however, common to see speakers that plug in using phono plugs that are actually amplified - and those do go loud. I don't recall seeing amplified 3.5mm connectors, but they might exist.
     
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    I'm just concerned, that hooking them to an iphone/or smartphone might destroy one or the other.
     
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    I highly doubt that, they'll just be a bit quiet is all, I suspect.
     
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    I would disagree totally, even if that is the mindset today. And it is sad that people think that way as it will not change back anytime soon do to this. Sometime change is NOT good and this is one time.
     
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    those appear to be from an older hp p3 computer. 1 of my customers had 1.
     
  19. omegaman7

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    Very likely DDP. I have two HP/Compaq's in my PC clutter area LOL!

    Sam, it worked fine connected to my LG Fathom smartphone. It doesn't get very loud, but it does work.
     
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    Hey guys, this is a topic of general interest I believe, concerning a graphic setting called vertical sync, synchronizing with the normal 60 hz screen refresh rate.

    A very strange thing happened yesterday. I wonder if anybody else has had the experience of vertical sync actually interfering with gaming performance, by reducing shooting effectiveness?

    I know that some of you like vsync - Blaze has talked about using it for increased fluidity - he's mostly on World of Warcraft I believe. Sam said he does not use it, and Sam referred me to one of my new favorite games, CS:GO Demolition.

    Here is what happened:

    I had re-enabled crossfire for one particular graphically challenging game, Medal of Honor Warfighter. Crossfire fixed my lag problem, increasing my frame rate to 60 or 70 fps.

    When I started to play Demolition again, which is a much lighter game graphically, I didn't want to disable crossfire, however just one 7950 runs that game at 120 fps. I thought that two in crossfire would be a ridiculous overkill, so I turned on vertical sync for a steady 60 fps.

    During the gaming session that followed, my shooting accuracy seemed to be way off. It was a bad night - I just couldn't shoot worth sh*t. I thought I had lost my touch.

    One incident stuck stuck out: On the Lake map, I was firing full auto with my bizon gun sight right on the back of the bot's head 10 feet away, as I strafed to the left while he was busy exchanging shots with one of my teammates. Nothing happened - it wasn't until I strafed back the other way that I finally killed him. WTF!

    I'm not saying I'm Wyatt Earp - but especially against the bots I am used to hearing the little DING bell sound, meaning I just got a kill and I will advance to a different weapon for the next round. So I called it a night.

    I had everything shut down. I had gone inside the house and was about ready to hit the sack, when I stopped cold - "Wait a second - was it the vertical sync?" I ultimately didn't get to bed for another 3 hours - by then I was an exhausted but happy camper - I can still make the bell ring!

    Without vsync, running 120 fps, the graphics cards throttled back to a 45% load, the gameplay was back to normal. I realize that my experience is anecdotal, certainly not any kind of a scientific study, but I am going to be so bold as to postulate:

    VERTICAL SYNC CAUSED A PORTION OF MY BULLETS TO NOT REGISTER WITH THE SERVER!

    (Since I started playing Demolition, from time to time I have heard guys mic out, or type out, "I was shooting right at your head and nothing happened!" I attributed it at the time to lag, or to their imagination - but now I wonder if it was vsync.)

    What do you guys think?

    Rich
     

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