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The Stone Ages - Yet another problem with encoding

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Lumbastio, Sep 15, 2005.

  1. vurbal

    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    @Lumbastio
    If you're using a cracked version of DRM you can expect to have problems with the output. This is a known issue that's can only be resolved by buying the software. I can understand not wanting to spend the money. I'm well known for being cheap, but I consider DRM Pro well worth the money. If you don't want to pay for it I'd recommend looking for other software because it will never work properly for you.
     
  2. l8nights

    l8nights Guest

    So you are saying that skipping dvdremake did not work??????????
     
  3. UncasMS

    UncasMS Regular member

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    @ l8nights

    lots of questions and suggestions stay unanswered

    seems like wasting time
     
  4. l8nights

    l8nights Guest

    It is the weekend and I am patient but this might test me

    1 did you run it through dvd shrink to try and make it dvd compliant

    2 did you try re-rip and process w/out dvd remake 3.1

    just wondering

    if this thread continues in this pattern we will all be addicts and none the wiser!!
    off to unsubscribe
     
  5. Lumbastio

    Lumbastio Member

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    Calm down l8. I told you that it takes 13 hours to encode, what do you want me to do? I just finished encoding and was able to successfully rebuild the DVD. And yes, if you read, you'll see that I followed the suggestions and used DVD Shrink to edit the DVD in an uncompressed format. Basically, I changed nothing else. So, to summarize:

    1.Ripped with Decrypter (AnyDVD in background)
    2.Processed through Shrink to remove everything but the main movie (uncompressed)
    3.Encoded with RB/CCE 4 passes
    4.Rebuilt with RB successfully.
    5.Used Nero to burn onto TY media (x16) and verified the data

    This shows that the problem was with Remake and I suspect that I deleted files during editing with RM that I shouldn't have deleted. I would be OK using Shrink to edit my DVD's, but as it was said, it leaks quality. I don't want that to happen and will have to figure out how to use Remake Pro in the correct manner. When I played the DVD, the quality is fine and you can't tell the difference from far, when when I use teh pause and get close to the screen I can see the traces of Shrink - comparatively large pixelation around color edges, especially when the background is black. I really don't like Shrink anymore and it is a waste of time to encode for 13 hours when the effects of Shrink are there.

    So I need to solve the problem with the Remake. When I go to "import DVD" and choose the folder that contains the ripped files, I get this error from Remake:

    Read DVD from: F:\
    Read VMG
    The system cannot find the file specified.

    (171:dataAccess.cxx)
    Can't open VIDEO_TS.IFO. (925:VMG.cpp)
    can't load VMG.

    However, when I open the folder containing the ripped files and then press "select," everything goes smoothly and the DVD is imported.

    1.Is it possible that there is something wrong with the settings?
    2.Is it possible to hide (delete) a file that might make the DVD non-compliant?
     
  6. l8nights

    l8nights Guest

    Lumbastio I am not upset so to speak I just wonder what the intentions of this post are just to steer ppl away from the best quality back-up prog's available.(it say's so in your sig) or if you actually needed help? thirteen hours is along time to encode in my opinion but what ever suits you

    I personally would not post the bit about not paying for non freebware program's but again whatever suits you this could quite possibly be the whole problem!

    try to use dvd decrypter>dvd rebuilder>nero see if this works that is my suggestion

    the "pixelation" around the edges of words or what not I commonly called the mosquito effect and is expected when using shrink the only thing that will lessen this is the quality settings try smooth settings!
     
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  7. Lumbastio

    Lumbastio Member

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    What do you mean if I really needed help? You think I have nothing better to do than waste my time in this forum creating time consuming threads for no reason? Now this is upsetting.
    I did not try to steer away anyone from these programs, but merely stated the problems. I now agree that I shouldn't have posted about the free programs since it seems that some people can't approach it rationally and tend to get hung up on it. I was pissed about the programs and that's why said what I said.
    Your suggestion of using dvd decrypter>dvd rebuilder>nero doesn't make sense. Do you understand that I need to edit the DVDs?

    I'm going to have to ask you to either post something constructive that might help me resolve the issue or not post anything at all. I'm tired of all these personal discussions and it also keeps others away from making any worthy contributions. I might have to quit this thread and start another one.

    If there is anyone out there who can help with Remake, it would be great. To try to disprove the hypothesis that the problem is due to the version of my Remake, I will download the lastest trial version and go through the process again.
     
  8. arniebear

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    It is a forum and l8nights posted a very constructive answer in the use of programs and about the pixelation that could be lessened by using quality enhancements in Shrink. There is no reason for you to state he should not post, that is not up to you.

    I have not seen that happen.

    Multi-posting is against forum rules.



     
  9. l8nights

    l8nights Guest

    aparently

     
  10. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Lumbastio

    Are you making demands in an open forum? I think that there's more here than just your ineptness at doing what the rest of us easily take for granted. We're here to help and share because we don't have your difficulties, or we've overcome them but we're not paid employees, and we owe nothing to anyone other than our personal desires to help. Have you taken any of the advice that's been given to you? And if you have, did you provide any usable feedback to help us help you? So far I've heard you brag about using applications that you know nothing about and didn't pay for. Vurbal told you that the cracked version of Remake doesn't function fully but you went ahead and used one anyway and then bragged about it.

    What are looking for? If it's assistance of some kind using RB, then get to the point and stop your pointless debate!!
     
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  11. Lumbastio

    Lumbastio Member

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    Sophocles, didn't you see that I have taken all the advice given? I have to repeat myself again: the problem was indeed due to Remake because when I processed though Shrink I did not get the same problem. But then again, in the very beginning, I already said that I had been able to burn successfully using all the programs listed except Remake. So now I need to know if I have not been using DVD Remake correctly. Since many of you think that it is because of the version of the program, I will be downloading the latest trial version to see whether it works. If this feedback is not clear enough, please let me know what more do I have to clarify.
    I am not making any demands whatsoever, but I am requesting to concentrate on the issue and refrain from personal insults. Too bad that somehow it seemed that I am bragging about Remake. That's not true. Don't you think that it would be sort of difficult to brag about a program that I apparantely don't know how to use?

    I thank all of you who are trying to help. I accept my comparative ineptitude - 2 weeks of reading and have burned only 4 DVD's so far. I'll get there. Although I love the Germans, this is not World War II. No need to fight. If any of you thinks that my feedback is not clear enough or not in the proper format, just let me know the specifics and I'll try to correct it.
     
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  12. l8nights

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    @lumbastio please read entirety as I am appologizing for my inability to see that you were actually posing a question that due to my "ineptness" is still unclear to me glad to know that I am not the only one here not understanding you

    thnx arnie&soph
    the only reason I suggested going at it w/out the remake was to test a theory that the version you have(or the way used) of remake is causing a compliance issue I was not telling you to give up on doing the "highest quality back-up possible" but rather singleing out possible causes

    btw something had to be removed or altered to "patch" the prog. this is quite often done by ppl w/ less exp. than the original author possibly could have removed or altered to much corrupting portions of you application
    sorry you read into my replies that I was tring to debate w/ you read my sig it is the true search for a broader knowledge that fuels my post and if I came across upset is imho from the beggining (the title) this thread seemed geared toward deterring ppl from continueing that pursuit of knowledge it is a shame that you would seemingly let (I'm guessing here) my status not let you here any possible solutions I might offer!
     
  13. Lumbastio

    Lumbastio Member

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    l8, it's ok. Your status has nothing to do with anything. It's just that it was upsetting when you said that I posted this thread to waste my and everybody else's time. I didn't insult anyone. Of course, I have already done what you have suggested and it has worked. I'm willing to try your or anybody else's suggestions about Remake.
     
  14. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Lumbastio

    I read all of your posts and I understand your frustration but you have to be careful how you project it onto others and that's what you were doing. We're a pretty good bunch and we will chase a problem to its end if we are dealing with a sincere person. I'm not looking for a war and neither is anyone else so lets be little more respectful and everyone will get along just fine.
     
  15. Lumbastio

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    I agree
     
  16. Lumbastio

    Lumbastio Member

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    I just downloaded the 3.1.3 version of Remake. It functions exactly as the one I have. Unfortunately, the trial version is so limited that it will be useless to try and export the DVD (15 seconds limitation per scene.) I re-edited the files with my current Remake and am currently encoding. I hope this will work.
    Right now, since the problem has been traced to Remake, this discussion is limited to Remake only. That's why I thought that a new thread might be necessary. I'll see how it goes - if there will be enough suggestions about Remake, it might not be necessary to create a new thread. Or perhaps I should try the Remake forum if no one can help me in this forum.
    I updated my Rebuilder to 1.00 RC60 Pro and am using only 2 passes so that the encoding can complete quicker.
    I'm interested to know more about PGC and DVD compliance and what can I do to avoid these problems.
     
  17. UncasMS

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    i have told you in the very beginning, that the problem was due to the downloaded remake version

    if it needs another 2-3 people to tell you the very same thing once again to make you believe, well....

    use pgcedit or vobblanker or buy a copy of remake but please stop telling more advanced users, that you're the one being familiar with cracked software because obviously you're not even familiar with uncracked software

    you're constantly complaining in many of your replies that i have read so far and that way you wont get any further help from some people who have years of experience


    and btw the way: what was this stupid reference to GERMANS?


     
  18. andmerr

    andmerr Guest

    you have tried the cracked version and found out that it doesnt work(well has limitations).Its now time to buy the original, and complete your project.

    Goodluck with whatever you decide but realize that by buying the product that you are helping them develop better programs to help you ultimately complete your projects.
     
  19. xentrix

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    I am experiencing a similar proble with DVD Rebuilder.

    Greetings!

    First I ripped the DVD to the HD as an iso image (Million dollar baby) with DVDDecrypter.exe, then mounted the image to work with. I used Nero image drive.

    I used CCE 2.70 SP and One Click Mode to back the dvd up, all works great (approx time 5 hrs at 2 pass).

    DVD Rebuilder reaches 100% then outputs this warning:
    "Error in UPDATEIFO:VTS_01VOBID:02/CELLID:01 was not found in the VOB"

    Ohh ohh, what has happened I am thinking...have I checked all the basics before starting?

    well I used Nero to build a DVD compliant file structure only to be told that my files are non dvd compliant. (Everything looks ok, I do know how a DVD file structure looks)

    To finish, the burned files playback perfectly on two of my standalone players and I am very happy with the quality.

    Is this a bug in the program? I used Pro edition V 1.00 RC5.1
    ------------------------------------------------

    Another question,

    I have a movie, that will not fit onto 1 DVD R disc, so i use Shrink to cut out the credits, now it fits - am I getting a true 1:1 uncompressed rip or is shrink actually encoding the stream? the time it takes is on par with a dvddecrpyter rip.

    I will try the shrink solution as described above for dvd compliance, all I am really looking for is 100% dvd compliance (i'm aware of dvd rom booktype bla blah)

    excuse any spelling errors - I am very drunk.
     
  20. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Try ripping in file mode before encoding.

    Shrink processes even with no compression.
     

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