The whole point of the safety valve...

Not anarchy! Its called a debate or difference of opinion.

 

a simple way to do this is to see if drd can block the post count add if posted in this Safety valve board

note:the post count has never ment beans to me,from day one.

i ask drd years ago to get rid of newbie and use member instead..he said no..

we use to have a 3-day waiting peried,i asked though mr moore if it could be removed,drd then removed the 3-day wait to post..

 

If people want to make loads of pointless posts then i asy let them, i see senior members make dumb posts sometimes, just cos they have a high post count.. dont mean they posted lots of help..

 

and the thread was dead. close thread

 

@Rundata
We're trying to have a mature and civil discussion and even though I don't embrace the premise on which this thread was started it has turned out to be a noteworthy debate with no flame throwing and that imo speaks volumes and bodes well for this community. I have also seen Seniors and others both above and below on the totem pole make posts which defy the rules or certainly could be considered an infraction. It's an imperfect system and there will always be infractions. People are by and large temperamental and even the best of us at times will post something pointless. What is important is to not establish a record of doing so repeatedly.

@Xsilver
I agree with you on the point that this is a debate and might I add a decent one at that. I don't think you are, but just for the record don't feel offended that I singled you out earlier. You were the first advocate of this thread and hence I addressed my response to you et al. Regarding your following statement:
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What sought of groups or organizations do not let members question descisions made by its leaders?
I will leave you to draw your own conclusions.[/bold]

Imho the question asked in the thread by Syphertek could easily have been asked in a less inflammatory way and would have been more well received. But obviuosly he felt incensed about it and posted with his emotions on his sleeve. I do not wholeheartedly agree with Lethal B that the authority of the Mods should not be questioned but the manner in which it is done is of paramount importance. I somehow recall seening an instance where a Mod closed a thread and subequently reopened it and apologised. It was reopened after he was PM'd by a few people. So ofcourse they can & will make mistakes and their authority can be questioned. They are afterall....only human. I would surmise that there are appropriate channels to pursue any questionable actions of a Mod and the public forum would not be my first choice. I'd PM either another Mod or the Mod in question and if I believe that I am being treated unjustly at this level then I'd seek audience with DRD or some other Admin Official. I don't think the Mods want to be perceived as ogres either. They are infact quite pleasant. Even.....the Nephster, lol.

 

ok
read the whole of this thread,
i agree with free speech etc. but..all debates/meetings have to draw the line somewhere and that is why you have enforcers. ours are mods and they do a great job under difficult conditions. they take a lot of stick from all sorts but still manage to keep a bit of dignity and carry on helping ppl in spite of said abuse.
i spend several hrs a day lurking around here and i can assure you that if i had the button there would be a whole lot more threads closed than there is now.
don't panic though. its taken me a year to reach senior, and will take another couple for me to reach Addict, so the chances of me becoming a mod are remote
these guys have been given the dubious "honour" of being mods by being selected by the members of this forum as respected ppl, for the work and advise they have given
thats it i'm off to lurk
POWER TO YOU GUYS keep up the good work

 

I have never been on this forum before but have read up in recent days.
It is obvious that the ones whinging and moaning about threads being closed are the ones who in fact HIDE themselves in such forums without making any real contribution when help is requested in other forums.
I see one particular senior member has at least 3 pointless threads going, who CARES what others eat, I certainly DONT.
Get a life and get out and give some help where it's needed

 

@rundata----What you have stated is exactly what I am trying to get across in my post. There are now some senior members that make many useless posts. How did they become senior members, by making useless posts. In time they will become Addicts and still make useless posts. But letting them make these useless post as you say they should be allowed to do is what aggravates me. I like having fun as much as the next person but when that takes over the complete look of the forum as the number one thing to do then its time to do something about it. Its probably a good thing I don't have MOD under my name because I don't think I would have the patience that AD mods have with some members on here. I don't enter the games sections but have heard that part of the forum is a mess. Kids will be kids I guess. Too many changes in the last year.

Jerry

 

My suggestion to help curb unnecessary posts in the Safety Value for the purpose of building ones post count to achieve a higher member status...

Harry123
Senior Member

Total Posts
1560

Safety Value
1214

You would know at a glance! <G>

 

Hi there Ted, its been a while. Your suggestion would help us tell those kinds of posters but their main objective is to get to the top of the hill, if you know what I mean. So to them it won't really matter how the post count is divided or shown. Thats my way of looking at it. I just think that certain forum areas (safety valve being the biggest one) should not count towards post count. There are a few other areas that should be grouped together and just not be counted. That way those that want to hang out there all day can do so but it won't pad their count.

Jerry

 

this is why i posted this earlier,
my quote
a simple way to do this is to see if drd can block the post count add if posted in this Safety valve board ...

 

@Ireland---I must of missed your post, but thats exactly whats needed. Once certain areas no longer count I think many of the junk posts would stop on their own.

Jerry

 

I am all for removing any post counts related to this forum.
Had this been implemented a long time ago most of these POSTERS would STILL have newbie after their name.
Make them earn Higher membership status.
I'm sure if you put it to the vote then the only ones who would object KNOW WHO THEY ARE

 

@ gwen..did u get ur pc running right? -i agree membership should be based on post that help and not on mindless chatter. it would help if people would read a little before posting too.

 

lowering the post count is easy to do and changing them back to newbie..
i have that option on my site

i am sure drd has the same option..and its easy to check if all there posts to move up came out of this board.