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WinSys2.exe

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  1. SHovi

    SHovi Member

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    Olen harrastanut hieman selvän näkemistä (yhdyssana?), veikkaan että sulla BanKog on näytönohjaimena MSI:n tekele? Meneekö pahasti pieleen?

    Veikkaan myös, että koneeltasi löytyy winsys.exe fileja, joissa on ikonina vihreä juokseva ukko?
     
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    Mites sulla infs, löytyykö sulta MSI:n tekemä näytönohjain?
     
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    KASPERSKY ONLINE SCANNER REPORT
    Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:18:29 PM
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
    Kaspersky Online Scanner version: 5.0.98.0
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus database last update: 5/02/2008
    Kaspersky Anti-Virus database records: 549196
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    Scan Settings:
    Scan using the following antivirus database: extended
    Scan Archives: true
    Scan Mail Bases: true

    Scan Target - My Computer:
    A:\
    C:\
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    H:\
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    Scan Statistics:
    Total number of scanned objects: 138502
    Number of viruses found: 1
    Number of infected objects: 1
    Number of suspicious objects: 0
    Duration of the scan process: 05:21:13

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    C:\Documents and Settings\infs\Cookies\index.dat Object is locked skipped
    C:\Documents and Settings\infs\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Object is locked skipped
    C:\Documents and Settings\infs\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
    C:\Documents and Settings\infs\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
    C:\Documents and Settings\infs\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\MSHist012008020520080206\index.dat Object is locked skipped
    C:\Documents and Settings\infs\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat Object is locked skipped
    C:\Documents and Settings\infs\NTUSER.DAT Object is locked skipped
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    C:\Documents and Settings\LocalService\Cookies\index.dat Object is locked skipped
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    C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\NTUSER.DAT Object is locked skipped
    C:\Documents and Settings\NetworkService\ntuser.dat.LOG Object is locked skipped
    C:\Program Files\mIRC\mirc.exe Infected: not-a-virus:Client-IRC.Win32.mIRC.621 skipped
    C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.log Object is locked skipped
    C:\Program Files\Steam\SteamApps\winui.gcf Object is locked skipped
    C:\System Volume Information\MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase Object is locked skipped
    C:\System Volume Information\_restore{FAFA7E73-0D79-4890-A32C-2B431FB8F559}\RP1\change.log Object is locked skipped
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    C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SAM Object is locked skipped
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    C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.LOG Object is locked skipped
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\SysEvent.Evt Object is locked skipped
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system Object is locked skipped
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system.LOG Object is locked skipped
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\sptd.sys Object is locked skipped
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\INDEX.BTR Object is locked skipped
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\INDEX.MAP Object is locked skipped
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\Repository\FS\MAPPING.VER Object is locked skipped
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    C:\WINDOWS\Temp\Perflib_Perfdata_244.dat Object is locked skipped
    C:\WINDOWS\wiadebug.log Object is locked skipped
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    C:\WINDOWS\WindowsUpdate.log Object is locked skipped
    D:\System Volume Information\MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase Object is locked skipped
    E:\Jack's.Teen.America.5.XXX.DVDRiP.x264-ShAQ\Jack's.Teen.America.5.XXX.DVDRiP.x264-ShAQ.CD1.mp4 Object is locked skipped
    E:\NFL.Super.Bowl.XLII.2008.02.03.Giants.VS.Patriots.HDTV.XVID-BAJSKORV\CD1\nfl.super.bowl.xlii.2008.02.03.giants.vs.patriots.hdtv.xvid.cd1-bajskorv.r18 Object is locked skipped
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    E:\System Volume Information\MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase Object is locked skipped
    E:\System Volume Information\_restore{FAFA7E73-0D79-4890-A32C-2B431FB8F559}\RP1\change.log Object is locked skipped
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    Scan process completed.



    Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
    Scan saved at 15:19:50, on 5.2.2008
    Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
    MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)
    Boot mode: Normal

    Running processes:
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE
    C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 1.3\apdproxy.exe
    C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\avgas.exe
    C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe
    C:\program files\steam\steam.exe
    C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgamsvr.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgupsvc.exe
    C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgemc.exe
    C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 2.3\program\soffice.exe
    C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\nTuneService.exe
    C:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org 2.3\program\soffice.BIN
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
    C:\Program Files\Opera\Opera.exe
    C:\Program Files\uTorrent\uTorrent.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
    C:\Program Files\mIRC\mirc.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\DfrgNtfs.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\oodag.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\oodtray.exe
    C:\Program Files\OO Software\Defrag Professional\oodcnt.exe
    C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe
    C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\wmiprvse.exe

    O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_04\bin\ssv.dll
    O3 - Toolbar: Easy-WebPrint - {327C2873-E90D-4c37-AA9D-10AC9BABA46C} - C:\Program Files\Canon\Easy-WebPrint\Toolband.dll
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RTHDCPL] RTHDCPL.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SkyTel] SkyTel.EXE
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SW20] C:\WINDOWS\system32\sw20.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SW24] C:\WINDOWS\system32\sw24.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AVG7_CC] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgcc.exe /STARTUP
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NeroFilterCheck] C:\WINDOWS\system32\NeroCheck.exe
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Photo Downloader] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 1.3\apdproxy.exe"
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [!AVG Anti-Spyware] "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\avgas.exe" /minimized
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MSConfig] C:\WINDOWS\PCHealth\HelpCtr\Binaries\MSConfig.exe /auto
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
    O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [OODefragTray] C:\WINDOWS\system32\oodtray.exe
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Steam] "c:\program files\steam\steam.exe" -silent
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [NVIDIA nTune] "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\nTuneCmd.exe" clear
    O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [DAEMON Tools Lite] "C:\Program Files\DAEMON Tools\daemon.exe"
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    O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [AVG7_Run] C:\PROGRA~1\Grisoft\AVG7\avgw.exe /RUNONCE (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
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  4. infs

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    Ammuskelin noita vihreitä ukkoja eilen koko illan kaikilla haulikkoa pienemmillä aseilla, lisäksi googlasin raivolla noista winsys jutuista lisätietoja, jolloin törmäsin myös tähän keskusteluun.

    Illan ammunnan tulos oli, että osuin HIJackthis softalla NVIDIA kuvansäätöohjelmaa päähän.

    Vaikka googlella löytyi vaikka mitä troijalais juttuja, niin totuus taitaa olla, että winsys ja winsys2 tiedostot liittyvät MSI/NVIDIA näytönohjaimien ylikellotus ohjelmiin?

    Tänään hain uudet ajurit näytönohjaimeen MSI:n kotisivuilta ja YLLÄTYS YLLÄTYS, sieltä ne pienet vihreät miehet tulleet on! Ajuripaketti sisälsi siis kaikkien muiden tiedostojen lisäksi, juuri nuo winsys.exe ja winsys2.exe tiedostot.

    Offtopiccina: Osaisisiko joku kertoa, miten saa korjattua win- explorerin? Mulla se kaatuu aina hakutoiminnossa parin minuutin kuluttua?


     
  6. baNkog

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    jooo mulla on MSI:n valmistama GeForce 8600GTS
     
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    joo mulla on MSI:n valmistama GeForce 8600GTS ja kyllä on vihreän ukon kuva juu. tosi rasittavaa kun peleissä fps tippuu välillä sinne 5-60fps vaikka pitäisi olla koko ajan 100. forkannu olen monet kerrat mutta ei montaa tuntia mene niin siellä se piru taas pyörii. vaikka tolla Hijacthis ohjelmalla poistan sen nii se ei tunnu auttavan paljoakaan.
     
  8. infs

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    Tarttis varmaan MSI:ltä sit kysellä noist pienist vihreist miehist. Joutaa kyl näyttis vaihtoon mutenki ku mulla vaan 7600gt. varmaan joku muu ostettava ku MSI. Taitaa tää mun kone muuten olla aika puhdas kun ei o uusia ohjeita tullu =)
     
  9. tomato71

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    @ infs

    hyvältä näyttää :D
    palomuurin voisit vielä asentaa
    ilmainen täältä

    poista J:\Rojut\Nero 7.8.5.0 Ultra Edition Enhanced + Keymaker\

    Seuraavaksi poistamme kaikki käytetyt työkalut.

    Lataa OTMoveIt2 ja tallenna se työpöydällesi.

    *TuplaklikkaaOTMoveIt2.exe.
    *Klikkaa CleanUp!.
    *Valitse Yes kun kysytään "Begin cleanup Process?".
    *Jos pyydetään, että saako koneen käynnistää uudelleen, valitse Yes.
    *OTMoveIt poistaa itsensä kun se on valmis, jos näin ei käy poista se itse.


    HUOM: Jos palomuurisi tai joku muu tietoturvaohjelma varoittaa, että OTMoveIt2 yrittää päästä nettin, niin anna sen päästä sinne

    Putsaa järjestelmän palautus:

    1. Klikkaa oikealla oma tietokone-kuvaketta (hiiren oikealla napilla)
    2. Valitse ominaisuudet (alin vaihtoehto)
    3. Valitse järjestelmän palauttaminen välilehti
    4. Valitse poista järjestelmän palauttaminen käytöstä (laita ruksi)
    5. Paina käytä
    6. Paina OK
    7. Käynnistä kone uudelleen
    8. Palauta asetukset takaisin(ota ruksi pois)


    vielä ongelmia ???
     
  10. infs

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    Sehä täs nii kiva onki, et varsinaisesti mitää ongelmia ole ollukaa, vaikka matosia pyöriki. Niin pyöri konekki. =P Ainoo et noi winsys2 teidostot tuola vielä on mut kai ne sit on niitä MSI tiedostoja, et annanpa niitten olla.

    Järjestelmä palautukset ja matoisen neron installaation poistin jo aamulla.

    Kiitokset kovasti avusta. Palaan taas kun matoja purkissa. =)
     
  11. SHovi

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    Vihreille miehille on kyllä vaihtoehtokin:

    fyi- If you have a mobo with Nvidia chipset or video card, (Nvidia/MSI), You will have winsys2.exe under system32.
    Official quote from MSI
    "MSI Tech. 09/19/2007
    No, this is a MSI utility info which required when running MSI based utility. If you do not want to install this file, you can download and install/use Nvidia's reference driver which can also work as well: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_162.18.html"

    Edellinen lainattu täältä:
    http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=32&threadid=2032070&enterthread=y


    Ajurin linkki ei mulla vörki (ilmeisesti joku vanha ajuri), mutta tämä Nvidian ajuri ilmeisesti kävisi noihin meidän näytönohjaimiin:

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_169.21_whql.html


     
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    onko noi ajurit tarkotettu vaan 7600 sarjalle?
     

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